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Emotion and pain are intricately linked. Those in more emotional distress are more likely to experience pain in the body. And the perception of pain can vary depending on your mood.

Imagine that you stub your toe. If you just won the lottery, it probably wouldn’t bother you much. But if you just got in a big argument with your partner, then it might feel like a way bigger ouch!

Anatomy gives us great clues into pain and emotion. Studies have found that similar areas in the brain are activated whether by emotional pain or physical pain.

Although there is no one pain center in the brain, one study found that both emotional and physical pain lit up the anterior cingulate gyrus and the anterior insula.

These cortical areas in the “higher brain” work closely with the limb of system or the emotional centers of the brain. . I’ve seen many people experience substantial (sometimes total) physical relief from pain once any stuck emotions were addressed.

We talk more about "The Emotional Link Behind Chronic Pain" on Episode 1 of The MultiDimensional MD - Waking Up Medicine with my first guest Rachel Foody. Rachel is a patient of mine from a few years back. She figured out the 🔑 to help herself heal from almost a decade of chronic pain that began in her teens.

With love,

Dr. Dijamco

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Intro:

Imagine a world where doctors help you get healthy and notjust respond to your sickness a world where experts empower you to feel goodand bring peace joy and love to yourself in the world - an integrative approachto help. Dr. Arlene Dijamco is on a mission to wake medicine

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Hi, this is Dr. Arlene Dijamco I am The MultiDimensional MDand I'm here to wake up medicine because I want you to feel amazing in allaspects of your health.

I want you to feel peace love and joy and sometimes we mightnot talk about medicine and health in that way but it is a part of how you feeland a part of helping you feel completely balanced and completely like yourself.

So I want to normalize that conversation in medicine inhealth so that we talk about the most important things in our lives ourpriorities and what makes us feel joy and happiness because we are multi-dimensionalbeings.

When you were born, you came here as this amazing being of love and light and that is still you today no matter what's happened in your life you are still that amazing being of love and light if we could incorporate aspects of the health looking at more than just the physical body but looking at your mental health your emotional health the environmental health and spiritual health and more then we could do so much more in medicine so I really want to raise the bar of medicine to wake up medicine and bring some consciousness to it.

And that consciousness is an awareness a kind of mindfulness of where you are as a being as a person as a total health and in that mindfulness it's like that fifth dimension because if you think about the 3D that's the physical dimension and then you add that element of time and you add your awareness to it your consciousness that's the fifth dimension so we're going to be talking about this in The MultiDimensional MD in this show we're gonna be talking about consciousness, mind-body connection, herbs, food, and so much more in all the various episodes

If you don't know much about me my background is Filipino so my parents moved here from the Philippines. I come from a background of both farmers gardeners from the islands of the Philippines and then also a part of the clan like move to the cities to become physicians.

And so I loved that background where I have these two arms and really combining that holistic you know staying close to the earth and putting it together so that we have this more integrative approach to health.

My hope is that this show will really give you a fresh perspective so that you can tap into your health potential and into all of those layers of being of your being

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Also, when it comes to being a physician I had several ahamoments in my life in my first year of medical school I was in a small group andI was talking, I had this amazing idea what if we studied the placebo effect it'sthat innate capacity of the body to get better from within instead of comparingeverything to it all the medications were being compared to the placebo effectbut I thought wow there was a way for you to get better from within and when Ibrought this up at the time my colleagues and my attending – the [attending] physician- at the time kind of gave me a quizzical look and said well you know that's areally interesting way of looking at it.

But there wasn't much more conversation than that and Ithink that now is the time that we bring that conversation because for me thatplacebo effect is that love and light within you and if we could nourish itwith bringing in these different pieces of being able to look at your healthfrom that mind/body/spirit perspective bringing and talking about like what whatis stressing you in your life or what kinds of what's going on yourrelationships and how can that affect your health.

So that was really important to me. I wouldn't talk about itmuch then but I never forgot that moment.

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And then when I went to residency in the Bronx so I did my Iwent to medical school at Emory and then I went to residency at Albert Einsteinin the Bronx I studied I'm way over educated

I went to Harvard too so I have all of this education but it's really the pieces in my life of where I've been what I've experienced I have given me the most education and what I use the most in terms of being an integrative physician today. And I get to combine that with all these different aspects

But when I was in residency I was in my late 20s maybe 27 orso and I had this feeling that I might get sick if I didn't do something and soI started doing yoga and meditation hadn't done it before but I walked by thissign I said you know what something feels like I need to go in there and I wasable to settle myself down just to become more grounded

Because I was so stressed out from studying I had reflux Iwould keep me up at night but within three weeks of doing meditation and yoga,all of that just really calmed down. And people in the hospital actuallycommented and said there's something different about me and I thought you knowI've learned all of these things but I didn't learn about yoga and meditationin medical school and in residency. It was outside [of that]. I was like whydon't we bring this to our

patients so that they can get better.

We don't have to rely on as many medications. And on top ofthat, it really reduces the cost of healthcare, because there are certainthings that you can do even on your own that can really help out. And for methat's a big part of it because a sustainable healthcare is one where it's awin-win-win, where we can receive money that people can get better, andeveryone can benefit.

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So after my pediatric residency, then I went to Dr. AndrewWeil's Integrative Medicine fellowship in Arizona. And that really opened up myworld even more gave me a foundation for integrative medicine.

And I went on from there after that I studied with theCranial Osteopaths.  I really felt thatwas part of my calling and to do that kind of subtle Osteopathy you really hadto be more grounded and settled in yourself and my I felt like my life hadreally led up to that moment

Because I had done music for half my life and but then Iwent into medicine. I wondered like you know why did I spend so many years andmusic and for me it's because I was able to feel subtle vibrations. I couldfeel rhythms and so when I found Cranial Osteopathy where I got to listen withmy hands to those subtle rhythms in the body it was just another piece that reallykind of pulled everything together for me.

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So, for today's show we're going to talk about the emotionallink behind chronic pain. The thing is that "ouch" or perception ofpain is actually processed in your brain. And so if someone tells you that it'sall in your head, they're kind-of right. It really is.

Because if you imagine you touch something hot, before youfeel it, the nerve endings in your fingertips activate a reflex loop in yourspinal cord causing you to bring your hand back without even thinking about it.

And then a split second later it reaches your brain. Andthat's when you feel the pain and you feel that “ouch.” And so, there is thatlevel of processing.

The reflex is at the level of the spinal cord, but the perceptionthe intensity of the pain actual feeling of pain is in the brain. And that'sreally important to know because we can use

that anatomy and that knowledge, because the brain isflexible, and so we can actually shift it.  

If you think about that mind-body connection, in fact the studies have shown that emotional pain and physical pain activate similar areas in the brain and that includes these higher areas called the singular anterior cingulate cortex. So these are higher centers in the brain and they communicate and work very closely with the limbic system or the emotional centers of the brain.

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And so now I'm talking about that flexibility of the [brain]. Imagine that you stub your toe. What if you just won the lottery [then] you stubbed your toe. You know for me I wouldn't care. I wouldn't even feel it I would be like this is the best and I'd be jumping up and down. But what if you had had an argument, a big heated argument with your spouse your partner and you were real already really upset. Then you know stubbing your toe could bring you to the point of tears even if it was actually the same amount of injury.

So the emotional processing is really intertwined with howwe feel pain and this is important because we can use that. And right now weare in this crisis, this opiate crisis, because there are so many people aregetting accidentally addicted to pain meds. And there's so many pain meds beingprescribed nowadays. But there's other ways to help address pain. So what if weattended to that emotional link and then we could reduce that perception ofpain and we wouldn't have to rely as much on these medications?

It's great that we have them because sometimes we really needthem with surgeries and so forth. But more is not necessarily better and righthere you know in our country it tends to be that mentality. But less can be alot more, often. I feel that for medications, I love that they're there when weneed them but if we could get away with something else that's more natural andbetter for you and without those addictive properties, then that would bereally great.

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So for this first show, I want to introduce you to a patient of mine from a few years back because she has been through this. She has been through debilitating chronic pain. Her name is Rachel Foody and she healed from almost a decade of chronic pain starting in her teens. She did this by addressing that emotional link to the pain. And her experience actually inspired her to become a certified Emotion Code practitioner and yoga instructor so that she could help others in a similar way.

Rachel was born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia. She's always felt a calling towards helping others. Initially, she went to school for nursing but ended up switching gears towards holistic medicine. She is currently starting a new business called Tilly Ruth, in conjunction with her energy practice, that manufactures and sells the most natural non-toxic and environmentally friendly products she can formulate. She's an avid animal lover with two dogs of her own and strives to help others on the earth

A total integrative approach here. You're going to loveRachel and we're going to talk so much more about the emotional link I'm going toshare with you my perspective also and share with you some anatomy some scienceto help ground it for you and remember that you are flexible the brain isflexible so even though you might get stuck in this feeling of that feel intensefeeling of pain there are ways that you can change it and we're going to startgoing through some of those ways here today don't forget you can now watch andlisten to all exclusive and uncensored content 24/7 at UiMediaApp.com if youhave any questions or would like to say hello please call us at 678-495-4345 we'reabout to go on break we'll hear from Rachel right after that

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Welcome back this is Dr. Arlene Dijamco with TheMultiDimensional MD here to help you supercharge your health in a multi-dimensionalway and I'm back here with my guest Rachael Foody who has healed herself fromalmost a decade of chronic pain.

Rachel: So it was a journey for sure

Dr. Dijamco: Thank you for being here

Rachel: Thank you for having me. This is such a wonderfulexperience that I can shared my journey and everything I went through but alsoyou know some tips to help some people to which is the real goal.

Dr. Dijamco: So yeah tell us a little bit more about youknow how it started what was going on with you.

Rachel: So it started when I was 15 years old sophomore yearof high school I had just it was the beginning of the year, and I remembergoing into the year thinking I just feel different.  I couldn't pinpoint exactly what it was.  I just remember I felt like a general sick. That'sall I could explained it as, and then it just grew worse and worse to the pointwhere it was just completely debilitating.

I used to play volleyball; I couldn't play anymore. It wasjust terrible there was two parts in my neck the upper portion of my neck feltlike not to be graphic but like somebody was stabbing me with an ice pick thatwould go underneath my skull and out of my eye; and the lower portion of myneck would make me so physically nauseous that I would get ill and throw up.

Dr. Dijamco: How did you go through high school like that?

Rachel: It was really hard. There were some days that I would sit at my desk and people would people would look at me because my eyes would just be welling up with tears because I couldn't sit for a long amount of time. I couldn't stand for a long amount of time. I couldn't do anything for a long amount of time. And you know in class you're not allowed to get up and get down and everything so it was really hard.

I went to a bunch of different doctors. When I was five yearsold, I broke my jaw, and I landed on my face on my head, so they a lot of doctorsattributed it to that impact. And I'm sure that does play a point to a physicallevel but besides that they couldn't figure out what it was I've got brainscans everything and it was it was really rough.

My husband David, when we were dating in college, so this iseven years later  would have to carryaround anti-nausea tablets everywhere we went because as soon as it would comeup I'd be out because of the pain with that it was that intense it wouldphysically make me ill. And it's really hard for other people when you know,friends, family, loved ones, you know when they have to watch you in pain andthere's nothing that they can do because you can't you know you don't know whatto do for yourself either.

Dr. Dijamco: How would your friends handle it? What would peoplesay to you?

Rachel: It got to a point where they really didn't know whatto say. It was kind of like they would just I guess cater to me. But like I wouldtell David and I remember we got tickets to something, and we were walking upto the line, and I looked at him and I had this look and he goes “are you okay?”And I said we need to go like now and we just left and it's they were supersweet and loving and they did everything they could, and you know would prep meice packs and stuff but there's only a certain extent that you can do.

Dr. Dijamco: It really has that ripple effect you know you notfeeling well and then impact seeing other people around you

Rachel: It does. Yeah, and the worst part beyond that was the physical pain obviously, but I started to lose hope and that's where it got really scary because I was scared that this was gonna be the rest of my life I was scared that this was gonna dictate my life and I didn't see a way out of it.

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And to have that pain and not and think that this is gonnabe it you're gonna be in pain for the rest of your life is really hard. And soI got really hopeless and that's really tough and that's what really took me tothe edge and kind of broke me.

Dr. Dijamco: How old were you then?

Rachel: I was I think in college, it had been quite a fewyears of being in pain

Dr. Dijamco: That's a long time

Rachel: There's times where it was really, really bad, and Icouldn't move. And then there was other times throughout the day I always hadsome sort of pain whether it was something that I could manage that maybe to somebodyelse who got it randomly would be a lot of pain. But it was so chronic it youknow was like okay yes this is the norm but I think it was in college.

I was maybe 20 years old or something 21 and I found youthrough word-of-mouth I think it was and

Dr. Dijamco: So glad!

Rachel: It was a pivotal changing point because I remember I vividly remember in our session it was something completely different than I had ever done before. And I was open to it anything you know but I remember I was you know on your table and I started crying this intense deep cry. I cried during the session, I cried right after the session, I cried leaving the session, and you were wonderful, but I remember it was a different feeling.

Anybody who knows me knows that I hate to cry. I don't like sadthings but it was so different from a cry where you see a sad movie, or you seelike a hurt puppy, or that you know Sarah McLachlan commercial, you know somethinglike that um it was I didn't know why I was crying. It was just a huge overwhelminglike sigh that my body had.

And this was the first time and in speaking with you that Irealized there was something beyond the physical that nobody could figure outyeah.

Dr. Dijamco: That sigh is such a great word for it because it'sa release

Rachel: Yeah, my body was crying for help and nobody like could figure it out and at a certain level we only see as much as we want to see that we can see and there was a different level that after meeting with you that I saw something underneath and it really opened up possibilities for you know feeling better.

Dr. Dijamco: And then how did you feel physically?

Rachel: So physically I would realize so my brain would kind of spiral. Whenever I would start to get in pain, I would start to feel pain and think, “oh no” is the first one, “how bad is this about to be? how long is this going to last?” And then it would go to, “I'm totally hopeless; I'm never gonna get out of this, it's gonna spiral and spiral and I'll feel like this forever!”

And then you and I talked about this ‘cuz that's the worst partto get to, and you need to take a look at that, take a step back and realizethat there's you're not hopeless.

I remember replacing it with something like a coloring bookone night because it was something that I like to do that was like crafty andit kind of made me give me good feelings and my pain level came down a littlebit not a huge amount but enough for me to be like there is something here forsure that I can do to manage my own pain.

Dr. Dijamco: Yeah so that's really interesting for me you knowas an osteopath because then you had a huge emotional release and then the painshifted. Some was still there, but there was a shift.

Rachel: Totally

Dr. Dijamco: And then you start to realize like wow these things are really intertwined. It's like you don't know really what came first

Rachel: mm-hmm

Dr. Dijamco: Sometimes it doesn't really matter because Imean you had a huge accident when you were five, and any osteopath would be likeoh yes that could definitely play into it

Rachel: Yes, wear your helmets everybody!

Dr. Dijamco: Very important but at the same time you leftwith this huge emotional release. And that was a huge thing, because there's ashift, there's a wiggle room that hopeless versus hope. And it starts to kindof play between the two instead of like staying right on the hopelessness.

Rachel: Yes even if it was something small, just I went from completely hopeless to somewhat dreading the rest of my life because when you're in pain constantly you it's exhausting but just getting that tiny bit of a possibility that there's something else, that I could have a normal life again, you know go out and do the things that I like to do even watching movies you know I would have somebody would ask me to go see a movie and I would hesitate because I I'd have to pick the exact seat because of how my neck was positioned. It changed everything.

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Dr. Dijamco: And something you said, you said "I hateto cry" that was something

Rachel: yes

Dr. Dijamco: That was something you know about you. (Rachel: yeah) I was like, oh that is such a key because it's it takes a lot of courage to address your own deep emotions, and the reason they're so deep is because they're really important to you. (Rachel: they are). And they have to do with things that mean a lot in your life yes so it can take up courage to look underneath and see what's there

Rachel: Yeah, there was I think my favorite quote is from afellow energy practitioner and she said "your body will manifest issues inemotional ways", emotional pain, distress, you know whatever it is, and becausewe're really good at shoving things down (Dr. Dijamco: yes! right!) here ashumans trying to cover them up put them on the back burner whatever that thebody then takes it and manifests those issues into physical you know pain,distress, illness because you can't ignore that.

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Dr. Dijamco: And this is what I love to tell people insteadof seeing what looking at what's going wrong with your body, with your mind, withyour emotions; What's going right and what is your what are your symptoms doingthat somehow it's doing it in the way that you want it to. So when I think aboutpain, pain is the perfect container you can hide in it anything so if there'sdeep emotions that you want don't want to deal with, the pain is a perfectcontainer. It is all-consuming, you can't think about anything else

Rachel: yep and definitely catches your attention

Dr. Dijamco: Right there's the surface emotions I have todeal with the pain but then underneath that there's other things and I rememberwe had talked through some like mind-body things of what emotions could beunderneath yeah and there was like various things I mean anything in your life.Acommon one could be finances or an argument you had with family member or someoneclose to you, and those sorts of things would start to intensify pain.

What I tell people is when there’s, when the pain waxes andwanes, pay attention to that wiggle room. Because that the pain goes up, seewhat you're doing, and what you're thinking, and what emotions you're feeling, sothat you know exactly you know what's going on, bringing awareness to it.

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And they've done Studies on this. The Royal National Hospital in the UK actually does a study looking at the anxiety sensitivity that's what they called it and what you said "I hate to cry" – (Rachel: I do) -  You know that would hold on to the anxiety sensitivity so as the higher that was, it was associated with increased intensity of pain, and disability, and all that with the pain.

But when they added a mindfulness program to address that anxiety sensitivity, or fear of anxiety, "I-hate-to-cry" kind of thing, that association reduced to both the anxiety and the pain went down and that's really remarkable because that doesn't have to use medication

Rachel: Yeah, things correlate more than we think they do. We like to, a lot of times, pay attention to just the physical body, but we're so much more than that. And things are so intertwined that sometimes it can be baffling, you know, to see those underlying layers and everything.

Dr. Dijamco: So when you started to think about, like, fromhopeless to hope, like what would you start to say to yourself or what wouldyou…

Rachel: So I would seriously…my husband said I'd probably look a little crazy. I'd talk to myself out loud like “okay you're not hopeless, you're just in pain right now but that's because you're feeling this way.” And I would try to identify, like you said, what kind of caused me to accelerate the pain.

And you know you're stressed about this or it's, you know, nighttime and you haven't finished blah blah blah. So, you know, and kind of work myself back. And yeah it's a good coaching method.

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Dr. Dijamco: I mean that's mindfulness right there. It's like taking where you are being not…less judgmental of it, or non-judgmental if you can, and putting it in the bigger picture so that you can see it from various aspects (Rachel: Oh, totally) and realizing where you are.

Rachel: We’re a lot harder on ourselves than we…even if we know we're hard on ourselves, we're way harder than we even think we are. So after I met with you, I was…I got that glimpse.

I'd never had that much pain relief for that long. I wouldgo through segments and meet with a chiropractor or whatever and I would…theamount of pain that I was in, or the length, it would get shorter and shorterand more condensed. So I would be in pain sooner after my adjustment and thisand that.

Dr. Dijamco: So, I love that. This was your key to, like,switching gears and (Rachel: Oh totally) it's encouraging you to go on thatpath: yoga instructor emotion code practitioner. So we're going to talk more aboutthe emotion code when we get back from this brief sponsor break.

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Dr. Dijamco: Hi this is Dr. Arlene Dijamco you are watchingor listening to The MultiDimensional MD, here to wake up medicine.

I'm back with my guest Rachel Foody, who healed herself fromover a decade of chronic pain and was inspired to help others do the same. She becamean Emotion Code practitioner.

Rachel: Yes, so that was actually, that was totally meant tobe. After I'd met with you, I then found enough relief to start practicing yoga.And with that I found enough relief to get to go through teacher certification.I did that more for me, yes I taught classes and I can teach classes but it wasmore of a personal thing for me. 

Dr. Dijamco: It's like each door opened another and youstarted [Rachel: yeah] to be in the flow of life.

Rachel: Yes, just looking for those doors to open and actually at our first teacher training class we all sat around and we discussed how we found yoga, or you know, how we came to be here teacher training. And so, I shared my story and I remember afterwards, one of the girls in the class came up to me and she said that sounded like a very emotional experience, and I said it was totally. And she goes, you know I'd like to recommend you to somebody if I can.

Once again, open to anything so she recommended me to anEmotion Code practitioner and my first session another thing that was I had nevertried before. Totally new. But it was so Interesting, and I remember afterwards,after the session, because I was always in some little bit of pain kind of allthe time, but I remember afterwards kind of walking around and I was like wowI'm probably in about half as much pain as I was 20 minutes ago you know duringthe session. So, I started working with him more and more, and I got to a pointwhere I was like this can really you know help a lot of people, and not a lotof people know about it so I got certified myself in 2018. It's actually myanniversary month. And yeah, it's just it's new definitely new for a lot ofpeople but I think it's something that can really help people.

Dr. Dijamco: What exactly is the Emotion Code practice?

Rachel: So Emotion Code the way I like to explain it is everythingis made up of energy in the

World, this microphone, everything has energy whether youcan see it or not. So you also have your own energy we'll call it your energyfield. And when you have emotions also energy which gets stuck and trapped inyour body it warps your personal energy fields. And so that can over timemanifest into physical mental emotional pain: anguish, you know distress, discomfort,..anything.

And, we tend to overlook all the emotions underneath because,once again, we kind of pay attention to the physical body what is now. And so,I find those trapped emotions and release them. One of the things that I loveabout Emotion Code is  — not everybodylike when you go to talk therapy or you meet with a psychologist or somethingwhich I totally promote — I think talk therapy is very healthy but noteverybody likes to open up. Not everybody likes to relive a traumatic experienceso the nice thing about Emotion Code is I can find those emotions that are atthe root or that are playing a part.

Dr. Dijamco: And this is done energetically

Rachel: Yes, yes, and I find these emotions and I can release them without having to rehash the past without having to go into detail or somebody share something that they're not comfortable sharing. And so, it really applies and I think opens up doors to more to more people because I've definitely worked on people who were. And some people like to share their experiences like I like to I'm an open book

Dr. Dijamco: yeah

Rachel: But somebody might be sharing all their experiencesand they reach this one emotion I say does this remind you of something andthey go yes, but I don't want to share it I'm like that's fine, we can reallydo it anyway.

Dr. Dijamco: So, you're actually addressing emotions, and it’s not necessarily, you're not treating because that it this is not done like on its own. Like for you, you had already seen all these medical professionals

Rachel: Oh yes, yeah definitely in conjunction with, but Idon't think just like I don't think you know you should ignore your doctor, Idon't think you should ignore you know emotions, another part.

Dr. Dijamco: This is what I call an integrative approach because you know if your physician doesn't know how to approach the emotional aspect [Rachel: right] in addition to physical discomfort then you know, someone like Rachel could help you do that and by pinpointing you know emotions that might be causing distress. Or any kind of stress in your life is linked to any kind of illness.

Rachel: Yes, it can be something as small as my pinkie hurts today it was you know whatever it is.

Dr. Dijamco: It's really overall well-being.

Rachel: Right, right because it plays a part and you knowit's bigger than we think it is for sure.

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Dr. Dijamco: How do you first start?

Rachel: So when I first start a session with somebody Iexplained to them what Emotion Code is not everybody does (know), and even ifthey do I recap it anyway.

But the first thing I always work on is called a heart walland so this can take a couple sessions, because a heart wall — so everybodyknows that sinking feeling when like you get broken up with, or you seesomething tragic, or whatever in your heart has that sinking feeling. And, youknow, we've even found scientifically you can die from a broken heart nowbecause of all the stress and anything it puts on your heart.

So, your heart wants to protect itself. So what does it doit takes all these emotions that are trapped and then creates a barrier betweenover your heart and between everything else. And so it creates a sort of heartwall and what that is, is it changes how you give and receive everything — love,communication, wealth, abundance, you know, everything.

And the way that I describe it is, if you have a beautifulbutterfly that you send out from your heart, and you're trying to send it outinto the world to a person, whoever, but it has to fly through all of thesegross nasty walls that it's trying to get through when it comes out it doesn'tlook like a butterfly anymore. Whether that was your intention or not, that isnot what you sent out what came from your heart. So the first thing I do is Iclear people's heart walls and like I said that can take a few sessions becausewhen you think of how old you are and how many experiences you've had, yada yada,you know it can it can pile up.  And thenI give them tools to keep their heart wall cleared.

Dr. Dijamco: And so from how I understand it that heart wallis not just energetic actually it's like you feel that physical tension andyou're just like if you only do receive bad news and we see this come up in ourlanguage with words so how you know from a broken heart, you know wearing your hearton your sleeve, or pulling at heartstrings, so that heart physically andenergetically is so important

Rachel: Yes, it's kind of like a weight lifted and you feelmore like you, like your true self. Because you have all this like gunk andbaggage and barriers that are removed so you're like oh this is like really methis is who I am.

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Dr. Dijamco: Well, we see the importance of that in anatomybecause the heart actually has sometimes they call it a mini its own brain ithas over has about 40,000 neurons just for the heart. And if we take a look atthe connections from your heart to your brain — they have studies on this — about80% of the nerves actually send messages from your heart to your brain and about20% from your brain to your heart. So a lot of times we think it's our brain incharge but when you look at anatomy, so who do you think is in charge or shouldbe in charge?

Rachel: Right, yeah

Dr. Dijamco: so actually paying attention to those messagesof the heart

Rachel: Yep, and it's crazy and I have some people, obviously whenever somebody books a session with me or whatever they have an idea of what they want to work on, you know they've had a lot of stress lately, they have an injury they want to work on but I always clear the heart wall first.

And it's kind of like if you have a splinter in your finger and a log that fell over your torso, you're not going to clean out the splinter first you're gonna clean off the log and you're gonna feel a lot better anyway. Then, we work on some more minute, you know, distinct things that you want to work on yeah.

Dr. Dijamco: And that heart wall it just reminds me of thatwhat I said about a pain that pain is a wonderful container for things. Well,that heart wall is that protection, and so it's like to protect what's reallyimportant to you. But to have courage to actually look beneath it and to lift thewalls.

Rachel: It's a freeing experience on its own it really is

Dr. Dijamco: And to feel like those deep connections in yourlife or what what emotion might be underlying there

Rachel: mm-hmm, it's kind of fun to find out the emotions. Ilike to learn about myself so when I was working with my Emotion Code practitioneron myself, I liked to figure out what emotion from when, okay that makes sense,so what sorts of things can't come up for you.

I'm really hard on myself so I have a lot of — and like Isaid I'm an open book — but I have a lot of self-abuse and not not you knowphysical but um I'm really hard on myself and that wears you down after a whilebecause

Dr. Dijamco: That's really common for everyone

Rachel: Especially nowadays where everything is supposed tobe you know kind of more perfect and it's yeah so that and man there's so many really

Dr. Dijamco: The way we think of ourselves is not how we wouldthink about a close friend or

Rachel: Yeah, we're so hard on ourselves. We never give ourselvesa break.

Dr. Dijamco: But that can change

Rachel: Oh totally yeah

Dr. Dijamco: And you can do so much with doing that. I think that we have a caller. We'll seen just a moment. In terms of the people you've seen what else is coming out of regarding the heart wall may give people some idea of like what could build up that wall

Rachel: So okay there's a lot of different things, and it dependson your experience and it can be from even when you were in the womb and everything,feelings that you felt from your mom, and it all affects you. But there'sdefinitely you know anger, crying, frustration. There's so many different onesthat are so powerful and to have a wall built up is extremely overwhelming. Sowhen you have it removed it's very freeing.

Dr. Dijamco: Okay, I think that our caller is ready so we'llgo ahead and take that. Hello caller!

Caller (Karen): Hi, am I on?

Dr. Dijamco: Yes, you're on, you're on air

Caller (Karen): This is Karen. Hi, how do I know for sure ifI have a heart wall?

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Dr. Dijamco: So Karen's question is how do you know for sureyou have a heart wall?

Rachel: Okay, so that's a good question. About 99% of the populationhas a heart wall, just ‘cuz emotions and experiences, you can't really help, itbut there are five things that you can look for and kind of you don't have tohave all five. You can have just a few of them that give you keys to you knowidentify if you have a heart wall:

First is low energy and low immunity.

Second, is indecisiveness with your mission in life, and Iknow that's one that I used to identify with big time.

Third, is desensitized heart and that can mean a coupledifferent things. So, that can mean that you're codependent. It can mean thatyou have low empathy or you lack empathy. It can mean that you excuse abusivebehavior.

The fourth is your love language gets lost in translation. Soonce again that butterfly that comes out doesn't look like how you intended it towhen you said that you know when you said whatever you said to your partner.

And then last is lack of abundance and wealth. And your heartwell really relates to so many different aspects because it's everything yougive and receive, so it's not just

Communication. It's you know love, abundance, you knoweverything

Dr. Dijamco: And that heart energetically and physically… I know heart math has done studies on measuring the electromagnetic field of the heart and it is 60 times bigger than the electromagnetic field of the brain. So just another clue about who's supposed to be in charge and if we could allow it and I listened to it and follow the messages and directions you know that it's trying to give us.

Again, what's going on with your body that's right? Like what is your mind-body-spirit trying to tell you? What's working for it? And it's trying to protect you, so you you're the one that has to decide that it no longer needs the protection.

Rachel: Yes, and a lot of people think that, oh wasn't theprotection good? And the idea of it, yes, is it's trying to protect itself. Butit's also kind of bogging you down and who you truly are and you're not youryourself anymore.

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Welcome back to The MultiDimensional MD - Waking Up Medicine.I'm your host Dr. Arlene Dijamco. I'm here with my guest Rachel Foody who is anEmotional Code practitioner and healed herself from almost a decade of chronicpain.

So I think that we do have another caller and we'd be happyto pick that up. Hello caller!

Caller: Hi, I just got a question for Rachel. She's talkingabout the heart wall. Once you get rid of it can it, come back?

Rachel: So that is a good question. Once you get rid of yourheart wall, there are tips —and I give these tips at the end of when I workwith my clients — on how to keep your heart wall away. That does not mean it'll100% stay away.  I still clear my ownheart well every once in awhile, but is nowhere near like what it was when Ifirst had it cleared. And the reason for that is you know like when you putsunscreen on, you can put it on and it definitely you know protects yourselffrom the sun, but after awhile and if you're not reapplying, then you can startto get burnt and see you know some redness on your face. So I definitely dogive tips and tricks on how to keep it away and do what you can. But every oncein awhile, you might need a refresher so that's a good question.

Dr. Dijamco: And mindfulness and being aware it's a practice. So it varies day to day from moment to moment. We have life, there's ups and downs, it's not that we're meant to be happy all the time. I would, you know, we would love that, but it's really appropriate to have some feelings that we might you know label as negative. Because if someone close to you passes, you'll feel sad, you'll feel grief and that's okay. It's more that non-judgmental aspect of not labeling that emotion is not okay, to feel it because it's human to feel that.

Rachel: You can feel any emotion how you handle it and hangon to it is really important

like you said the mindfulness of it

Dr. Dijamco: It’s so important to process it because your heartis telling you, so when if you feel a tug in your heart when you feel that, it'sbasically your heart guiding you. And this is what I say, what is your body doingthat's right, what is it trying to tell you. It's telling you that there'spain, emotional pain there, and to be gentle with yourself, to be kind to

Yourself, to take care of yourself, to give yourself timeand space so that you can acknowledge what it's feeling. To honor it.

Rachel: Right, to listen to it and not to just ignore it, likethat was weird

Dr. Dijamco: To honor it, yeah not to just skip over and be likeokay I'm sad, but I'm going to make myself happy because I don't like to feel sad.That actually tells your body to put up a heart wall

Rachel: mm-hmm

Dr. Dijamco: like I'm not okay with feeling this sotherefore

Rachel: I don’t want to feel this any more

Dr. Dijamco: Yes, so therefore protect me, so the less youfeel. And situations will happen, it's also not a good or bad thing if a heartwall goes up, because be thankful for it sometimes, because it's a coping mechanism,and it's your way of really getting you through it.

Rachel: Right, yeah, it's totally, well you're definitelyfeel freer without it, but it does it for a reason. So when we do clear it, wecan kind of go through and see it's kind of interesting, because you can gothrough the emotions and realize kind of like an awakening for yourself.

Oh, that's right, that did happen, or I didn't realize thatI was really that upset at that situation.

Dr. Dijamco: So you know a follow-up to that question wouldbe, does someone always have to keep coming back to you to make sure?

Rachel: It's so everybody is on their own journey. I've hadpeople before that like to keep coming back. I've had people before that wantto clear their heart wall and move on to something else. I am NOT pushy by any meansbecause everybody is on their own journey. There are always emotions underlyingtons of stuff, but that doesn't mean that I don't —

Dr. Dijamco: If you’re human, you have emotions.

Rachel: Right, I don’t want people to get to the point wherethey get so I'll call it nitpicky I don't know if that's right that thatbecomes negative and they start being hard on themselves

because they're worried of an emotion that got stuck. That'snot the way that we want to move with it. It wants to be a, you know, we wantit to be a positive experience that you can learn from and release thoseemotions.

Dr. Dijamco: And the reason we feel emotions is because welove, right. Now, if we (feel emotions when we) get hurt, it’s because we loveourselves, and if (we hurt when) we see someone else get hurt, it's because we lovethem, so it's to kind of step into that aspect of it's okay to feel badsometimes. Step into the love there, it's important.

So we have another caller though. Hello caller!

Caller: Hi, I was wondering what I can do at home?

Dr. Dijamco: Okay, so that's a great question because it's really about empowerment and what — it's not that you necessarily need to come to see either of us to get better but if you want to get help we're always here for you. So, something that I really like to walk people through it's just a quick breathing exercise, because there's so many tools, so many mind-body techniques, so many things you can do

But if you don't know them then a quick one is to at least prolong your exhale. So breathe nice and slowly. Breathe in through your nose and then when you exhale through your mouth at least twice as long. And nice and slow as the inhale.

What this actually will do is to boost the calming response in your body which is responsible by the parasympathetic nervous system, so helps to balance you out Because when we're not when we're feeling kind of like on guard or feeling like we need a protection we're more in that fight-or-flight mode. And that's represented by the in-breath, so nice long exhale.

I do this before I go to sleep because it helps me calm down from the day helps me go to sleep, even if I've had a hectic day can go to sleep much more easily. And there's many different things that you could do but that's a really nice way.

Rachel: I definitely use that one, I still use that one afterlearning it from somebody.

Dr. Dijamco: I mean from from yoga and meditation, you know,there is a lot of breathwork

Rachel: Right, that’s one thing we don’t pay attention to is our breath. Your breath is life you know so we need to breathe.

Dr. Dijamco: Right and so it's even just paying (attention),starting to bring your awareness to your breath if you're not. Because usuallywhen we're feeling kind of wound up we stop our breathing. We tend to hold ourbreath and so just bringing the awareness to let it start moving, because thehealth is always in the flow. Being stagnant is not healthy, and so moving things,creating movement, whether it's energetic movement, you know balanced fluidmovement, breathing, your heart, heart rate, your pulse… all of that it'smovement. These are the rhythms of your life, and that plays out in so manydifferent ways.

So thank you so much, we are going to start to wrap up here. There's so many great things that we talked about in the show. If you haven't been with us the whole time, we were talking about the emotional link to chronic pain and how you can tap into and access your emotions to help reduce actual physical pain in your life.

It's not meant to be done without a medical practitioner, so always if you have pain, pain is a sign that something could be wrong medically, so you want to definitely check in with a healthcare practitioner. But to —if you want to take an integrative approach — is to expand that perspective and to include these multi-dimensional aspects of your being.

And I would love so much if more healthcare practitioners, whether physicians, or nurse practitioners, PT physical therapists, occupational therapists, anyone…  

If you're suffering with any kind of pain whether from arthritis, from an accident, even if you have a physical problem there is still an emotional aspect to pain because those brain centers in the brain — emotional pain and physical pain light up some similar areas and a lot of those areas are closely tied to the limbic system which is the emotional processing center of the brain. So don't forget to breathe, have courage

Rachel: Yes, be mindful

Dr. Dijamco: Delve into all these things because your heartis really telling you where you need to pay attention and it can be stickysometimes to lift that heart wall.

Rachel: It can definitely, it can be scary, something new

Dr. Dijamco: Very scary, yeah, yeah

Rachel: To delve into yourself

Dr. Dijamco: I mean when you say I hate to cry that's a prettystrong word to use

Rachel: I do, I strongly dislike crying. Do I do it all thetime? Yes.

Dr. Dijamco: You know what, you've learned to allow yourself

Rachel: mm-hmm

Dr. Dijamco: And because I mean when I saw Rachel, the firstthree treatments, I think crying all throughout. I think we had to get someone topick you up the first time.

Rachel: It was, oh yeah, it was, it really was intense. A wholebody I call it a cry from my soul you know. It was deep

Dr. Dijamco: Yes, you can feel floaty like what is happeningto me, because pain even though it's suffering it can be really familiar ifyou've been at it for that long, like what would it feel like if you didn'thave pain.

Rachel: Yeah, something changed

Dr. Dijamco: I know some of you may want to get in touch with Rachel, so I'll let her tell you how you can do that

Rachel: So you can find me on my Facebook page, Foody forThought Inc, F-O-O-D-Y. You can also email me at foodyforthought@gmail.com. And Ijust started a new company called Tilly Ruth and the website is coming soon TillyRuth.comT-I-L-L-Y R-U-T-H, and it'll be in conjunction with my energy business, allnatural skin care and personal care products, crystal jewelry, a one-stop shopfor you

Dr. Dijamco: That sounds great. Really I'm so proud of her,she has come a long way

Rachel: Thank You

Dr. Dijamco: And this is an amazing process. I'm so honoredto be a part of that and thank you so much I haven't seen her in years and sothank you so much for being a part of the show.

If you want to follow me you can on Instagram @allworldshealth, on Facebook at All Worlds Health and Pediatrics, and my website is allworldshealth.com. so we I am always doing workshops and I'll do Tension and Trauma Release workshops that is something we're going to talk about next show in two weeks at 4 p.m. EST. We're going to talk about Tension and Trauma Release Exercises TRE with the the main U.S. trainer Maria Alfaro who actually trained me in teaching TRE, so I can't wait for that

Rachel: That's cool, that sounds really cool

Dr. Dijamco: What we are talking about here it's like this shaky meditation that has is creating a revolution around the world, taught in over 40 countries and areas of crisis, and also being used now for people just feeling stress and want to calm down some anxiety

So this is Dr. Arlene Dijamco, The MultiDimensional MD, here to supercharge your health in all dimensions mind, body, and spirit. Lots of love to you, I can't wait to see you next time two weeks 4 p.m. EST and I'll see you take care love you lots

Rachel: Me too!

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