Emotion and pain are intricately linked. Those in more emotional distress are more likely to experience pain in the body. And the perception of pain can vary depending on your mood.
Imagine that you stub your toe. If you just won the lottery, it probably wouldn’t bother you much. But if you just got in a big argument with your partner, then it might feel like a way bigger ouch!
Anatomy gives us great clues into pain and emotion. Studies have found that similar areas in the brain are activated whether by emotional pain or physical pain.
Although there is no one pain center in the brain, one study found that both emotional and physical pain lit up the anterior cingulate gyrus and the anterior insula.
These cortical areas in the “higher brain” work closely with the limb of system or the emotional centers of the brain. . I’ve seen many people experience substantial (sometimes total) physical relief from pain once any stuck emotions were addressed.
We talk more about “The Emotional Link Behind Chronic Pain” on Episode 1 of The MultiDimensional MD – Waking Up Medicine with my first guest Rachel Foody. Rachel is a patient of mine from a few years back. She figured out the 🔑 to help herself heal from almost a decade of chronic pain that began in her teens.
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Hi, this is Dr. Arlene Dijamco I am The MultiDimensional MD and I’m here to wake up medicine because I want you to feel amazing in all aspects of your health.
I want you to feel peace love and joy and sometimes we might not talk about medicine and health in that way but it is a part of how you feel and a part of helping you feel completely balanced and completely like yourself.
So I want to normalize that conversation in medicine in health so that we talk about the most important things in our lives our priorities and what makes us feel joy and happiness because we are multi-dimensional beings.
When you were born, you came here as this amazing being of love and light and that is still you today no matter what’s happened in your life you are still that amazing being of love and light if we could incorporate aspects of the health looking at more than just the physical body but looking at your mental health your emotional health the environmental health and spiritual health and more then we could do so much more in medicine so I really want to raise the bar of medicine to wake up medicine and bring some consciousness to it.
And that consciousness is an awareness a kind of mindfulness of where you are as a being as a person as a total health and in that mindfulness it’s like that fifth dimension because if you think about the 3D that’s the physical dimension and then you add that element of time and you add your awareness to it your consciousness that’s the fifth dimension so we’re going to be talking about this in The MultiDimensional MD in this show we’re gonna be talking about consciousness, mind-body connection, herbs, food, and so much more in all the various episodes
If you don’t know much about me my background is Filipino so my parents moved here from the Philippines. I come from a background of both farmers gardeners from the islands of the Philippines and then also a part of the clan like move to the cities to become physicians.
And so I loved that background where I have these two arms and really combining that holistic you know staying close to the earth and putting it together so that we have this more integrative approach to health.
My hope is that this show will really give you a fresh perspective so that you can tap into your health potential and into all of those layers of being of your being
Also, when it comes to being a physician I had several aha moments in my life in my first year of medical school I was in a small group and I was talking, I had this amazing idea what if we studied the placebo effect it’s that innate capacity of the body to get better from within instead of comparing everything to it all the medications were being compared to the placebo effect but I thought wow there was a way for you to get better from within and when I brought this up at the time my colleagues and my attending – the [attending] physician – at the time kind of gave me a quizzical look and said well you know that’s a really interesting way of looking at it.
But there wasn’t much more conversation than that and I think that now is the time that we bring that conversation because for me that placebo effect is that love and light within you and if we could nourish it with bringing in these different pieces of being able to look at your health from that mind/body/spirit perspective bringing and talking about like what what is stressing you in your life or what kinds of what’s going on your relationships and how can that affect your health.
So that was really important to me. I wouldn’t talk about it much then but I never forgot that moment.
And then when I went to residency in the Bronx so I did my I went to medical school at Emory and then I went to residency at Albert Einstein in the Bronx I studied I’m way over educated
I went to Harvard too so I have all of this education but it’s really the pieces in my life of where I’ve been what I’ve experienced I have given me the most education and what I use the most in terms of being an integrative physician today. And I get to combine that with all these different aspects
But when I was in residency I was in my late 20s maybe 27 or so and I had this feeling that I might get sick if I didn’t do something and so I started doing yoga and meditation hadn’t done it before but I walked by this sign I said you know what something feels like I need to go in there and I was able to settle myself down just to become more grounded
Because I was so stressed out from studying I had reflux I would keep me up at night but within three weeks of doing meditation and yoga, all of that just really calmed down. And people in the hospital actually commented and said there’s something different about me and I thought you know I’ve learned all of these things but I didn’t learn about yoga and meditation in medical school and in residency. It was outside [of that]. I was like why don’t we bring this to our
patients so that they can get better.
We don’t have to rely on as many medications. And on top of that, it really reduces the cost of healthcare, because there are certain things that you can do even on your own that can really help out. And for me that’s a big part of it because a sustainable healthcare is one where it’s a win-win-win, where we can receive money that people can get better, and everyone can benefit.
So after my pediatric residency, then I went to Dr. Andrew Weil’s Integrative Medicine fellowship in Arizona. And that really opened up my world even more gave me a foundation for integrative medicine.
And I went on from there after that I studied with the Cranial Osteopaths. I really felt that was part of my calling and to do that kind of subtle Osteopathy you really had to be more grounded and settled in yourself and my I felt like my life had really led up to that moment
Because I had done music for half my life and but then I went into medicine. I wondered like you know why did I spend so many years and music and for me it’s because I was able to feel subtle vibrations. I could feel rhythms and so when I found Cranial Osteopathy where I got to listen with my hands to those subtle rhythms in the body it was just another piece that really kind of pulled everything together for me.
So, for today’s show we’re going to talk about the emotional link behind chronic pain. The thing is that “ouch” or perception of pain is actually processed in your brain. And so if someone tells you that it’s all in your head, they’re kind-of right. It really is.
Because if you imagine you touch something hot, before you feel it, the nerve endings in your fingertips activate a reflex loop in your spinal cord causing you to bring your hand back without even thinking about it.
And then a split second later it reaches your brain. And that’s when you feel the pain and you feel that “ouch.” And so, there is that level of processing.
The reflex is at the level of the spinal cord, but the perception the intensity of the pain actual feeling of pain is in the brain. And that’s really important to know because we can use
that anatomy and that knowledge, because the brain is flexible, and so we can actually shift it.
If you think about that mind-body connection, in fact the studies have shown that emotional pain and physical pain activate similar areas in the brain and that includes these higher areas called the singular anterior cingulate cortex. So these are higher centers in the brain and they communicate and work very closely with the limbic system or the emotional centers of the brain.
And so now I’m talking about that flexibility of the [brain]. Imagine that you stub your toe. What if you just won the lottery [then] you stubbed your toe. You know for me I wouldn’t care. I wouldn’t even feel it I would be like this is the best and I’d be jumping up and down. But what if you had had an argument, a big heated argument with your spouse your partner and you were real already really upset. Then you know stubbing your toe could bring you to the point of tears even if it was actually the same amount of injury.
So the emotional processing is really intertwined with how we feel pain and this is important because we can use that. And right now we are in this crisis, this opiate crisis, because there are so many people are getting accidentally addicted to pain meds. And there’s so many pain meds being prescribed nowadays. But there’s other ways to help address pain. So what if we attended to that emotional link and then we could reduce that perception of pain and we wouldn’t have to rely as much on these medications?
It’s great that we have them because sometimes we really need them with surgeries and so forth. But more is not necessarily better and right here you know in our country it tends to be that mentality. But less can be a lot more, often. I feel that for medications, I love that they’re there when we need them but if we could get away with something else that’s more natural and better for you and without those addictive properties, then that would be really great.
So for this first show, I want to introduce you to a patient of mine from a few years back because she has been through this. She has been through debilitating chronic pain. Her name is Rachel Foody and she healed from almost a decade of chronic pain starting in her teens. She did this by addressing that emotional link to the pain. And her experience actually inspired her to become a certified Emotion Code practitioner and yoga instructor so that she could help others in a similar way.
Rachel was born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia. She’s always felt a calling towards helping others. Initially, she went to school for nursing but ended up switching gears towards holistic medicine. She is currently starting a new business called Tilly Ruth, in conjunction with her energy practice, that manufactures and sells the most natural non-toxic and environmentally friendly products she can formulate. She’s an avid animal lover with two dogs of her own and strives to help others on the earth
A total integrative approach here. You’re going to love Rachel and we’re going to talk so much more about the emotional link I’m going to share with you my perspective also and share with you some anatomy some science to help ground it for you and remember that you are flexible the brain is flexible so even though you might get stuck in this feeling of that feel intense feeling of pain there are ways that you can change it and we’re going to start going through some of those ways here today don’t forget you can now watch and listen to all exclusive and uncensored content 24/7 at UiMediaApp.com if you have any questions or would like to say hello please call us at 678-495-4345 we’re about to go on break we’ll hear from Rachel right after that
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Welcome back this is Dr. Arlene Dijamco with The MultiDimensional MD here to help you supercharge your health in a multi-dimensional way and I’m back here with my guest Rachael Foody who has healed herself from almost a decade of chronic pain.
Rachel: So it was a journey for sure
Dr. Dijamco: Thank you for being here
Rachel: Thank you for having me. This is such a wonderful experience that I can shared my journey and everything I went through but also you know some tips to help some people to which is the real goal.
Dr. Dijamco: So yeah tell us a little bit more about you know how it started what was going on with you.
Rachel: So it started when I was 15 years old sophomore year of high school I had just it was the beginning of the year, and I remember going into the year thinking I just feel different. I couldn’t pinpoint exactly what it was. I just remember I felt like a general sick. That’s all I could explained it as, and then it just grew worse and worse to the point where it was just completely debilitating.
I used to play volleyball; I couldn’t play anymore. It was just terrible there was two parts in my neck the upper portion of my neck felt like not to be graphic but like somebody was stabbing me with an ice pick that would go underneath my skull and out of my eye; and the lower portion of my neck would make me so physically nauseous that I would get ill and throw up.
Dr. Dijamco: How did you go through high school like that?
Rachel: It was really hard. There were some days that I would sit at my desk and people would people would look at me because my eyes would just be welling up with tears because I couldn’t sit for a long amount of time. I couldn’t stand for a long amount of time. I couldn’t do anything for a long amount of time. And you know in class you’re not allowed to get up and get down and everything so it was really hard.
I went to a bunch of different doctors. When I was five years old, I broke my jaw, and I landed on my face on my head, so they a lot of doctors attributed it to that impact. And I’m sure that does play a point to a physical level but besides that they couldn’t figure out what it was I’ve got brain scans everything and it was it was really rough.
My husband David, when we were dating in college, so this is even years later would have to carry around anti-nausea tablets everywhere we went because as soon as it would come up I’d be out because of the pain with that it was that intense it would physically make me ill. And it’s really hard for other people when you know, friends, family, loved ones, you know when they have to watch you in pain and there’s nothing that they can do because you can’t you know you don’t know what to do for yourself either.
Dr. Dijamco: How would your friends handle it? What would people say to you?
Rachel: It got to a point where they really didn’t know what to say. It was kind of like they would just I guess cater to me. But like I would tell David and I remember we got tickets to something, and we were walking up to the line, and I looked at him and I had this look and he goes “are you okay?” And I said we need to go like now and we just left and it’s they were super sweet and loving and they did everything they could, and you know would prep me ice packs and stuff but there’s only a certain extent that you can do.
Dr. Dijamco: It really has that ripple effect you know you not feeling well and then impact seeing other people around you
Rachel: It does. Yeah, and the worst part beyond that was the physical pain obviously, but I started to lose hope and that’s where it got really scary because I was scared that this was gonna be the rest of my life I was scared that this was gonna dictate my life and I didn’t see a way out of it.
And to have that pain and not and think that this is gonna be it you’re gonna be in pain for the rest of your life is really hard. And so I got really hopeless and that’s really tough and that’s what really took me to the edge and kind of broke me.
Dr. Dijamco: How old were you then?
Rachel: I was I think in college, it had been quite a few years of being in pain
Dr. Dijamco: That’s a long time
Rachel: There’s times where it was really, really bad, and I couldn’t move. And then there was other times throughout the day I always had some sort of pain whether it was something that I could manage that maybe to somebody else who got it randomly would be a lot of pain. But it was so chronic it you know was like okay yes this is the norm but I think it was in college.
I was maybe 20 years old or something 21 and I found you through word-of-mouth I think it was and
Dr. Dijamco: So glad!
Rachel: It was a pivotal changing point because I remember I vividly remember in our session it was something completely different than I had ever done before. And I was open to it anything you know but I remember I was you know on your table and I started crying this intense deep cry. I cried during the session, I cried right after the session, I cried leaving the session, and you were wonderful, but I remember it was a different feeling.
Anybody who knows me knows that I hate to cry. I don’t like sad things but it was so different from a cry where you see a sad movie, or you see like a hurt puppy, or that you know Sarah McLachlan commercial, you know something like that um it was I didn’t know why I was crying. It was just a huge overwhelming like sigh that my body had.
And this was the first time and in speaking with you that I realized there was something beyond the physical that nobody could figure out yeah.
Dr. Dijamco: That sigh is such a great word for it because it’s a release
Rachel: Yeah, my body was crying for help and nobody like could figure it out and at a certain level we only see as much as we want to see that we can see and there was a different level that after meeting with you that I saw something underneath and it really opened up possibilities for you know feeling better.
Dr. Dijamco: And then how did you feel physically?
Rachel: So physically I would realize so my brain would kind of spiral. Whenever I would start to get in pain, I would start to feel pain and think, “oh no” is the first one, “how bad is this about to be? how long is this going to last?” And then it would go to, “I’m totally hopeless; I’m never gonna get out of this, it’s gonna spiral and spiral and I’ll feel like this forever!”
And then you and I talked about this ‘cuz that’s the worst part to get to, and you need to take a look at that, take a step back and realize that there’s you’re not hopeless.
I remember replacing it with something like a coloring book one night because it was something that I like to do that was like crafty and it kind of made me give me good feelings and my pain level came down a little bit not a huge amount but enough for me to be like there is something here for sure that I can do to manage my own pain.
Dr. Dijamco: Yeah so that’s really interesting for me you know as an osteopath because then you had a huge emotional release and then the pain shifted. Some was still there, but there was a shift.
Dr. Dijamco: And then you start to realize like wow these things are really intertwined. It’s like you don’t know really what came first
Dr. Dijamco: Sometimes it doesn’t really matter because I mean you had a huge accident when you were five, and any osteopath would be like oh yes that could definitely play into it
Rachel: Yes, wear your helmets everybody!
Dr. Dijamco: Very important but at the same time you left with this huge emotional release. And that was a huge thing, because there’s a shift, there’s a wiggle room that hopeless versus hope. And it starts to kind of play between the two instead of like staying right on the hopelessness.
Rachel: Yes even if it was something small, just I went from completely hopeless to somewhat dreading the rest of my life because when you’re in pain constantly you it’s exhausting but just getting that tiny bit of a possibility that there’s something else, that I could have a normal life again, you know go out and do the things that I like to do even watching movies you know I would have somebody would ask me to go see a movie and I would hesitate because I I’d have to pick the exact seat because of how my neck was positioned. It changed everything.
Dr. Dijamco: And something you said, you said “I hate to cry” that was something
Dr. Dijamco: That was something you know about you. (Rachel: yeah) I was like, oh that is such a key because it’s it takes a lot of courage to address your own deep emotions, and the reason they’re so deep is because they’re really important to you. (Rachel: they are). And they have to do with things that mean a lot in your life yes so it can take up courage to look underneath and see what’s there
Rachel: Yeah, there was I think my favorite quote is from a fellow energy practitioner and she said “your body will manifest issues in emotional ways”, emotional pain, distress, you know whatever it is, and because we’re really good at shoving things down (Dr. Dijamco: yes! right!) here as humans trying to cover them up put them on the back burner whatever that the body then takes it and manifests those issues into physical you know pain, distress, illness because you can’t ignore that.
Dr. Dijamco: And this is what I love to tell people instead of seeing what looking at what’s going wrong with your body, with your mind, with your emotions; What’s going right and what is your what are your symptoms doing that somehow it’s doing it in the way that you want it to. So when I think about pain, pain is the perfect container you can hide in it anything so if there’s deep emotions that you want don’t want to deal with, the pain is a perfect container. It is all-consuming, you can’t think about anything else
Rachel: yep and definitely catches your attention
Dr. Dijamco: Right there’s the surface emotions I have to deal with the pain but then underneath that there’s other things and I remember we had talked through some like mind-body things of what emotions could be underneath yeah and there was like various things I mean anything in your life. Acommon one could be finances or an argument you had with family member or someone close to you, and those sorts of things would start to intensify pain.
What I tell people is when there’s, when the pain waxes and wanes, pay attention to that wiggle room. Because that the pain goes up, see what you’re doing, and what you’re thinking, and what emotions you’re feeling, so that you know exactly you know what’s going on, bringing awareness to it.
And they’ve done Studies on this. The Royal National Hospital in the UK actually does a study looking at the anxiety sensitivity that’s what they called it and what you said “I hate to cry” – (Rachel: I do) – You know that would hold on to the anxiety sensitivity so as the higher that was, it was associated with increased intensity of pain, and disability, and all that with the pain.
But when they added a mindfulness program to address that anxiety sensitivity, or fear of anxiety, “I-hate-to-cry” kind of thing, that association reduced to both the anxiety and the pain went down and that’s really remarkable because that doesn’t have to use medication
Rachel: Yeah, things correlate more than we think they do. We like to, a lot of times, pay attention to just the physical body, but we’re so much more than that. And things are so intertwined that sometimes it can be baffling, you know, to see those underlying layers and everything.
Dr. Dijamco: So when you started to think about, like, from hopeless to hope, like what would you start to say to yourself or what would you…
Rachel: So I would seriously…my husband said I’d probably look a little crazy. I’d talk to myself out loud like “okay you’re not hopeless, you’re just in pain right now but that’s because you’re feeling this way.” And I would try to identify, like you said, what kind of caused me to accelerate the pain.
And you know you’re stressed about this or it’s, you know, nighttime and you haven’t finished blah blah blah. So, you know, and kind of work myself back. And yeah it’s a good coaching method.
Dr. Dijamco: I mean that’s mindfulness right there. It’s like taking where you are being not…less judgmental of it, or non-judgmental if you can, and putting it in the bigger picture so that you can see it from various aspects (Rachel: Oh, totally) and realizing where you are.
Rachel: We’re a lot harder on ourselves than we…even if we know we’re hard on ourselves, we’re way harder than we even think we are. So after I met with you, I was…I got that glimpse.
I’d never had that much pain relief for that long. I would go through segments and meet with a chiropractor or whatever and I would…the amount of pain that I was in, or the length, it would get shorter and shorter and more condensed. So I would be in pain sooner after my adjustment and this and that.
Dr. Dijamco: So, I love that. This was your key to, like, switching gears and (Rachel: Oh totally) it’s encouraging you to go on that path: yoga instructor emotion code practitioner. So we’re going to talk more about the emotion code when we get back from this brief sponsor break.
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Dr. Dijamco: Hi this is Dr. Arlene Dijamco you are watching or listening to The MultiDimensional MD, here to wake up medicine.
I’m back with my guest Rachel Foody, who healed herself from over a decade of chronic pain and was inspired to help others do the same. She became an Emotion Code practitioner.
Rachel: Yes, so that was actually, that was totally meant to be. After I’d met with you, I then found enough relief to start practicing yoga. And with that I found enough relief to get to go through teacher certification. I did that more for me, yes I taught classes and I can teach classes but it was more of a personal thing for me.
Dr. Dijamco: It’s like each door opened another and you started [Rachel: yeah] to be in the flow of life.
Rachel: Yes, just looking for those doors to open and actually at our first teacher training class we all sat around and we discussed how we found yoga, or you know, how we came to be here teacher training. And so, I shared my story and I remember afterwards, one of the girls in the class came up to me and she said that sounded like a very emotional experience, and I said it was totally. And she goes, you know I’d like to recommend you to somebody if I can.
Once again, open to anything so she recommended me to an Emotion Code practitioner and my first session another thing that was I had never tried before. Totally new. But it was so Interesting, and I remember afterwards, after the session, because I was always in some little bit of pain kind of all the time, but I remember afterwards kind of walking around and I was like wow I’m probably in about half as much pain as I was 20 minutes ago you know during the session. So, I started working with him more and more, and I got to a point where I was like this can really you know help a lot of people, and not a lot of people know about it so I got certified myself in 2018. It’s actually my anniversary month. And yeah, it’s just it’s new definitely new for a lot of people but I think it’s something that can really help people.
Dr. Dijamco: What exactly is the Emotion Code practice?
Rachel: So Emotion Code the way I like to explain it is everything is made up of energy in the
World, this microphone, everything has energy whether you can see it or not. So you also have your own energy we’ll call it your energy field. And when you have emotions also energy which gets stuck and trapped in your body it warps your personal energy fields. And so that can over time manifest into physical mental emotional pain: anguish, you know distress, discomfort,.. anything.
And, we tend to overlook all the emotions underneath because, once again, we kind of pay attention to the physical body what is now. And so, I find those trapped emotions and release them. One of the things that I love about Emotion Code is — not everybody like when you go to talk therapy or you meet with a psychologist or something which I totally promote — I think talk therapy is very healthy but not everybody likes to open up. Not everybody likes to relive a traumatic experience so the nice thing about Emotion Code is I can find those emotions that are at the root or that are playing a part.
Dr. Dijamco: And this is done energetically
Rachel: Yes, yes, and I find these emotions and I can release them without having to rehash the past without having to go into detail or somebody share something that they’re not comfortable sharing. And so, it really applies and I think opens up doors to more to more people because I’ve definitely worked on people who were. And some people like to share their experiences like I like to I’m an open book
Dr. Dijamco: yeah
Rachel: But somebody might be sharing all their experiences and they reach this one emotion I say does this remind you of something and they go yes, but I don’t want to share it I’m like that’s fine, we can really do it anyway.
Dr. Dijamco: So, you’re actually addressing emotions, and it’s not necessarily, you’re not treating because that it this is not done like on its own. Like for you, you had already seen all these medical professionals
Rachel: Oh yes, yeah definitely in conjunction with, but I don’t think just like I don’t think you know you should ignore your doctor, I don’t think you should ignore you know emotions, another part.
Dr. Dijamco: This is what I call an integrative approach because you know if your physician doesn’t know how to approach the emotional aspect [Rachel: right] in addition to physical discomfort then you know, someone like Rachel could help you do that and by pinpointing you know emotions that might be causing distress. Or any kind of stress in your life is linked to any kind of illness.
Rachel: Yes, it can be something as small as my pinkie hurts today it was you know whatever it is.
Dr. Dijamco: It’s really overall well-being.
Rachel: Right, right because it plays a part and you know it’s bigger than we think it is for sure.
Dr. Dijamco: How do you first start?
Rachel: So when I first start a session with somebody I explained to them what Emotion Code is not everybody does (know), and even if they do I recap it anyway.
But the first thing I always work on is called a heart wall and so this can take a couple sessions, because a heart wall — so everybody knows that sinking feeling when like you get broken up with, or you see something tragic, or whatever in your heart has that sinking feeling. And, you know, we’ve even found scientifically you can die from a broken heart now because of all the stress and anything it puts on your heart.
So, your heart wants to protect itself. So what does it do it takes all these emotions that are trapped and then creates a barrier between over your heart and between everything else. And so it creates a sort of heart wall and what that is, is it changes how you give and receive everything — love, communication, wealth, abundance, you know, everything.
And the way that I describe it is, if you have a beautiful butterfly that you send out from your heart, and you’re trying to send it out into the world to a person, whoever, but it has to fly through all of these gross nasty walls that it’s trying to get through when it comes out it doesn’t look like a butterfly anymore. Whether that was your intention or not, that is not what you sent out what came from your heart. So the first thing I do is I clear people’s heart walls and like I said that can take a few sessions because when you think of how old you are and how many experiences you’ve had, yada yada, you know it can it can pile up. And then I give them tools to keep their heart wall cleared.
Dr. Dijamco: And so from how I understand it that heart wall is not just energetic actually it’s like you feel that physical tension and you’re just like if you only do receive bad news and we see this come up in our language with words so how you know from a broken heart, you know wearing your heart on your sleeve, or pulling at heartstrings, so that heart physically and energetically is so important
Rachel: Yes, it’s kind of like a weight lifted and you feel more like you, like your true self. Because you have all this like gunk and baggage and barriers that are removed so you’re like oh this is like really me this is who I am.
Dr. Dijamco: Well, we see the importance of that in anatomy because the heart actually has sometimes they call it a mini its own brain it has over has about 40,000 neurons just for the heart. And if we take a look at the connections from your heart to your brain — they have studies on this — about 80% of the nerves actually send messages from your heart to your brain and about 20% from your brain to your heart. So a lot of times we think it’s our brain in charge but when you look at anatomy, so who do you think is in charge or should be in charge?
Rachel: Right, yeah
Dr. Dijamco: so actually paying attention to those messages of the heart
Rachel: Yep, and it’s crazy and I have some people, obviously whenever somebody books a session with me or whatever they have an idea of what they want to work on, you know they’ve had a lot of stress lately, they have an injury they want to work on but I always clear the heart wall first.
And it’s kind of like if you have a splinter in your finger and a log that fell over your torso, you’re not going to clean out the splinter first you’re gonna clean off the log and you’re gonna feel a lot better anyway. Then, we work on some more minute, you know, distinct things that you want to work on yeah.
Dr. Dijamco: And that heart wall it just reminds me of that what I said about a pain that pain is a wonderful container for things. Well, that heart wall is that protection, and so it’s like to protect what’s really important to you. But to have courage to actually look beneath it and to lift the walls.
Rachel: It’s a freeing experience on its own it really is
Dr. Dijamco: And to feel like those deep connections in your life or what what emotion might be underlying there
Rachel: mm-hmm, it’s kind of fun to find out the emotions. I like to learn about myself so when I was working with my Emotion Code practitioner on myself, I liked to figure out what emotion from when, okay that makes sense, so what sorts of things can’t come up for you.
I’m really hard on myself so I have a lot of — and like I said I’m an open book — but I have a lot of self-abuse and not not you know physical but um I’m really hard on myself and that wears you down after a while because
Dr. Dijamco: That’s really common for everyone
Rachel: Especially nowadays where everything is supposed to be you know kind of more perfect and it’s yeah so that and man there’s so many really
Dr. Dijamco: The way we think of ourselves is not how we would think about a close friend or
Rachel: Yeah, we’re so hard on ourselves. We never give ourselves a break.
Dr. Dijamco: But that can change
Rachel: Oh totally yeah
Dr. Dijamco: And you can do so much with doing that. I think that we have a caller. We’ll seen just a moment. In terms of the people you’ve seen what else is coming out of regarding the heart wall may give people some idea of like what could build up that wall
Rachel: So okay there’s a lot of different things, and it depends on your experience and it can be from even when you were in the womb and everything, feelings that you felt from your mom, and it all affects you. But there’s definitely you know anger, crying, frustration. There’s so many different ones that are so powerful and to have a wall built up is extremely overwhelming. So when you have it removed it’s very freeing.
Dr. Dijamco: Okay, I think that our caller is ready so we’ll go ahead and take that. Hello caller!
Caller (Karen): Hi, am I on?
Dr. Dijamco: Yes, you’re on, you’re on air
Caller (Karen): This is Karen. Hi, how do I know for sure if I have a heart wall?
Dr. Dijamco: So Karen’s question is how do you know for sure you have a heart wall?
Rachel: Okay, so that’s a good question. About 99% of the population has a heart wall, just ‘cuz emotions and experiences, you can’t really help, it but there are five things that you can look for and kind of you don’t have to have all five. You can have just a few of them that give you keys to you know identify if you have a heart wall:
First is low energy and low immunity.
Second, is indecisiveness with your mission in life, and I know that’s one that I used to identify with big time.
Third, is desensitized heart and that can mean a couple different things. So, that can mean that you’re codependent. It can mean that you have low empathy or you lack empathy. It can mean that you excuse abusive behavior.
The fourth is your love language gets lost in translation. So once again that butterfly that comes out doesn’t look like how you intended it to when you said that you know when you said whatever you said to your partner.
And then last is lack of abundance and wealth. And your heart well really relates to so many different aspects because it’s everything you give and receive, so it’s not just
Communication. It’s you know love, abundance, you know everything
Dr. Dijamco: And that heart energetically and physically… I know heart math has done studies on measuring the electromagnetic field of the heart and it is 60 times bigger than the electromagnetic field of the brain. So just another clue about who’s supposed to be in charge and if we could allow it and I listened to it and follow the messages and directions you know that it’s trying to give us.
Again, what’s going on with your body that’s right? Like what is your mind-body-spirit trying to tell you? What’s working for it? And it’s trying to protect you, so you you’re the one that has to decide that it no longer needs the protection.
Rachel: Yes, and a lot of people think that, oh wasn’t the protection good? And the idea of it, yes, is it’s trying to protect itself. But it’s also kind of bogging you down and who you truly are and you’re not your yourself anymore.
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Welcome back to The MultiDimensional MD – Waking Up Medicine. I’m your host Dr. Arlene Dijamco. I’m here with my guest Rachel Foody who is an Emotional Code practitioner and healed herself from almost a decade of chronic pain.
So I think that we do have another caller and we’d be happy to pick that up. Hello caller!
Caller: Hi, I just got a question for Rachel. She’s talking about the heart wall. Once you get rid of it can it, come back?
Rachel: So that is a good question. Once you get rid of your heart wall, there are tips —and I give these tips at the end of when I work with my clients — on how to keep your heart wall away. That does not mean it’ll 100% stay away. I still clear my own heart well every once in awhile, but is nowhere near like what it was when I first had it cleared. And the reason for that is you know like when you put sunscreen on, you can put it on and it definitely you know protects yourself from the sun, but after awhile and if you’re not reapplying, then you can start to get burnt and see you know some redness on your face. So I definitely do give tips and tricks on how to keep it away and do what you can. But every once in awhile, you might need a refresher so that’s a good question.
Dr. Dijamco: And mindfulness and being aware it’s a practice. So it varies day to day from moment to moment. We have life, there’s ups and downs, it’s not that we’re meant to be happy all the time. I would, you know, we would love that, but it’s really appropriate to have some feelings that we might you know label as negative. Because if someone close to you passes, you’ll feel sad, you’ll feel grief and that’s okay. It’s more that non-judgmental aspect of not labeling that emotion is not okay, to feel it because it’s human to feel that.
Rachel: You can feel any emotion how you handle it and hang on to it is really important
like you said the mindfulness of it
Dr. Dijamco: It’s so important to process it because your heart is telling you, so when if you feel a tug in your heart when you feel that, it’s basically your heart guiding you. And this is what I say, what is your body doing that’s right, what is it trying to tell you. It’s telling you that there’s pain, emotional pain there, and to be gentle with yourself, to be kind to
Yourself, to take care of yourself, to give yourself time and space so that you can acknowledge what it’s feeling. To honor it.
Rachel: Right, to listen to it and not to just ignore it, like that was weird
Dr. Dijamco: To honor it, yeah not to just skip over and be like okay I’m sad, but I’m going to make myself happy because I don’t like to feel sad. That actually tells your body to put up a heart wall
Dr. Dijamco: like I’m not okay with feeling this so therefore
Rachel: I don’t want to feel this any more
Dr. Dijamco: Yes, so therefore protect me, so the less you feel. And situations will happen, it’s also not a good or bad thing if a heart wall goes up, because be thankful for it sometimes, because it’s a coping mechanism, and it’s your way of really getting you through it.
Rachel: Right, yeah, it’s totally, well you’re definitely feel freer without it, but it does it for a reason. So when we do clear it, we can kind of go through and see it’s kind of interesting, because you can go through the emotions and realize kind of like an awakening for yourself.
Oh, that’s right, that did happen, or I didn’t realize that I was really that upset at that situation.
Dr. Dijamco: So you know a follow-up to that question would be, does someone always have to keep coming back to you to make sure?
Rachel: It’s so everybody is on their own journey. I’ve had people before that like to keep coming back. I’ve had people before that want to clear their heart wall and move on to something else. I am NOT pushy by any means because everybody is on their own journey. There are always emotions underlying tons of stuff, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t —
Dr. Dijamco: If you’re human, you have emotions.
Rachel: Right, I don’t want people to get to the point where they get so I’ll call it nitpicky I don’t know if that’s right that that becomes negative and they start being hard on themselves
because they’re worried of an emotion that got stuck. That’s not the way that we want to move with it. It wants to be a, you know, we want it to be a positive experience that you can learn from and release those emotions.
Dr. Dijamco: And the reason we feel emotions is because we love, right. Now, if we (feel emotions when we) get hurt, it’s because we love ourselves, and if (we hurt when) we see someone else get hurt, it’s because we love them, so it’s to kind of step into that aspect of it’s okay to feel bad sometimes. Step into the love there, it’s important.
So we have another caller though. Hello caller!
Caller: Hi, I was wondering what I can do at home?
Dr. Dijamco: Okay, so that’s a great question because it’s really about empowerment and what — it’s not that you necessarily need to come to see either of us to get better but if you want to get help we’re always here for you. So, something that I really like to walk people through it’s just a quick breathing exercise, because there’s so many tools, so many mind-body techniques, so many things you can do
But if you don’t know them then a quick one is to at least prolong your exhale. So breathe nice and slowly. Breathe in through your nose and then when you exhale through your mouth at least twice as long. And nice and slow as the inhale.
What this actually will do is to boost the calming response in your body which is responsible by the parasympathetic nervous system, so helps to balance you out Because when we’re not when we’re feeling kind of like on guard or feeling like we need a protection we’re more in that fight-or-flight mode. And that’s represented by the in-breath, so nice long exhale.
I do this before I go to sleep because it helps me calm down from the day helps me go to sleep, even if I’ve had a hectic day can go to sleep much more easily. And there’s many different things that you could do but that’s a really nice way.
Rachel: I definitely use that one, I still use that one after learning it from somebody.
Dr. Dijamco: I mean from from yoga and meditation, you know, there is a lot of breathwork
Rachel: Right, that’s one thing we don’t pay attention to is our breath. Your breath is life you know so we need to breathe.
Dr. Dijamco: Right and so it’s even just paying (attention), starting to bring your awareness to your breath if you’re not. Because usually when we’re feeling kind of wound up we stop our breathing. We tend to hold our breath and so just bringing the awareness to let it start moving, because the health is always in the flow. Being stagnant is not healthy, and so moving things, creating movement, whether it’s energetic movement, you know balanced fluid movement, breathing, your heart, heart rate, your pulse… all of that it’s movement. These are the rhythms of your life, and that plays out in so many different ways.
So thank you so much, we are going to start to wrap up here. There’s so many great things that we talked about in the show. If you haven’t been with us the whole time, we were talking about the emotional link to chronic pain and how you can tap into and access your emotions to help reduce actual physical pain in your life.
It’s not meant to be done without a medical practitioner, so always if you have pain, pain is a sign that something could be wrong medically, so you want to definitely check in with a healthcare practitioner. But to —if you want to take an integrative approach — is to expand that perspective and to include these multi-dimensional aspects of your being.
And I would love so much if more healthcare practitioners, whether physicians, or nurse practitioners, PT physical therapists, occupational therapists, anyone…
If you’re suffering with any kind of pain whether from arthritis, from an accident, even if you have a physical problem there is still an emotional aspect to pain because those brain centers in the brain — emotional pain and physical pain light up some similar areas and a lot of those areas are closely tied to the limbic system which is the emotional processing center of the brain. So don’t forget to breathe, have courage
Rachel: Yes, be mindful
Dr. Dijamco: Delve into all these things because your heart is really telling you where you need to pay attention and it can be sticky sometimes to lift that heart wall.
Rachel: It can definitely, it can be scary, something new
Dr. Dijamco: Very scary, yeah, yeah
Rachel: To delve into yourself
Dr. Dijamco: I mean when you say I hate to cry that’s a pretty strong word to use
Rachel: I do, I strongly dislike crying. Do I do it all the time? Yes.
Dr. Dijamco: You know what, you’ve learned to allow yourself
Dr. Dijamco: And because I mean when I saw Rachel, the first three treatments, I think crying all throughout. I think we had to get someone to pick you up the first time.
Rachel: It was, oh yeah, it was, it really was intense. A whole body I call it a cry from my soul you know. It was deep
Dr. Dijamco: Yes, you can feel floaty like what is happening to me, because pain even though it’s suffering it can be really familiar if you’ve been at it for that long, like what would it feel like if you didn’t have pain.
Rachel: Yeah, something changed
Dr. Dijamco: I know some of you may want to get in touch with Rachel, so I’ll let her tell you how you can do that
Rachel: So you can find me on my Facebook page, Foody for Thought Inc, F-O-O-D-Y. You can also email me at firstname.lastname@example.org. And I just started a new company called Tilly Ruth and the website is coming soon TillyRuth.com T-I-L-L-Y R-U-T-H, and it’ll be in conjunction with my energy business, all natural skin care and personal care products, crystal jewelry, a one-stop shop for you
Dr. Dijamco: That sounds great. Really I’m so proud of her, she has come a long way
Rachel: Thank You
Dr. Dijamco: And this is an amazing process. I’m so honored to be a part of that and thank you so much I haven’t seen her in years and so thank you so much for being a part of the show.
If you want to follow me you can on Instagram @allworldshealth, on Facebook at All Worlds Health and Pediatrics, and my website is allworldshealth.com. so we I am always doing workshops and I’ll do Tension and Trauma Release workshops that is something we’re going to talk about next show in two weeks at 4 p.m. EST. We’re going to talk about Tension and Trauma Release Exercises TRE with the the main U.S. trainer Maria Alfaro who actually trained me in teaching TRE, so I can’t wait for that
Rachel: That’s cool, that sounds really cool
Dr. Dijamco: What we are talking about here it’s like this shaky meditation that has is creating a revolution around the world, taught in over 40 countries and areas of crisis, and also being used now for people just feeling stress and want to calm down some anxiety
So this is Dr. Arlene Dijamco, The MultiDimensional MD, here to supercharge your health in all dimensions mind, body, and spirit. Lots of love to you, I can’t wait to see you next time two weeks 4 p.m. EST and I’ll see you take care love you lots
Rachel: Me too!
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